I exclusively use the 23 gauge nailer for speed and finish quality. I install for a large cabinet manufacturer and do 3 to 5 kitchens a week. ![]() The comments below were added after this Forum discussion was archived as a Knowledge Base article ( add your comment). All the others jam all the time and only shoot 1". I prefer the EZ Fastener MP30 and it shoots a 1 3/16" micro pin. Sometimes you still have to fill the holes however. It gives you the chance of not having to fill nails holes, too. I install lots of kitchens and I would say the 23 gauge works great for most applications. When I have the room between crown and ceiling I will use the Grex on the large crown and then come back with a bead of liquid nails on the back side of the crown where it meets the cabinet. I use the Senco on the main run and the Grex on the joints and soft returns. I have the Grex p635 and a Senco slp20 (18 gauge) on small crown I am comfortable using the 23 gauge 1 3/8 on the larger crown. It’s not perfect, but I don't know how else to hold a long run of crown against ceiling and lower crown face (it was a three piece molding build up.) Locktite is great for this against ceilings and flat cabinet faces but requires a gap so it doesn’t work too well for ends/miters. Try to shoot in a shadow line or close to a seam. The pin is barely visible unless you stare at it, but it works. I shot the pin horizontally into the lower portion of the crown buildup, not into ceiling as it would never hold. I just did a pre-finished crown job and used one 1" 23 gauge pin in each end of pre-finished buff colored crown run of 6 feet simply to hold molding while Loctite hi grab adhesive set up. The 23 gauge micro pins are a handy tool for shooting on dentil teeth and fixing small splits but the nails being headless and very small will not hold any thing to heavy or under stress. 1 inch pins at 12 to 18 inches apart is best for crown but make sure to switch to 5/8 for the flat scribe. I can tell you from being a head installer at a large custom cabinet shop use an 18 gauge brad nailer. Does it take this many pins to hold the crown on or was someone just trigger happy? The other thing was that the pins were shot about every 6 or 8 inches along the crown. I don't know what brand pinner was used, but I wonder if nylon or steel will work with all brands. The pins appeared to be nylon or plastic. ![]() I saw a job done with a pin nailer and was curious about it. I am considering getting a pin nailer myself. Also, the head of the brad, if not shot with the grain, will sometimes cause the wood to blow out on each side of the head. The brad holds well enough, but sometimes the nose of gun leaves a dent when shooting the brad. I currently use an 18 gauge brad gun but have been a little dissatisfied with the results. (Cabinet and Millwork Installation Forum) I was going to buy a Grex and it shoots up to 1-3/8" pins. I am wondering if everyone is using 18 gauge or 23 gauge for your pre finished trim. I am going to be installing a lot of kitchens with pre finished crown.
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